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Co-worker's stale smoke and moldy coffee smell getting to you?

Question: “I sit by a man who is a chain smoker — some days he goes out to smoke six or seven times. He is also a heavy coffee drinker. The combination of smoke and coffee really stinks. How can I address this issue without offending him?” — Ann E. Harris


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19 Responses to "Co-worker's stale smoke and moldy coffee smell getting to you?"

 
ANON
said this on 13 Mar 2009 4:51:29 PM EST
This is a sensitive issue, however, recently a co-worker of mine placed a really "stinky" plug-in in her area. It made me very sick to my stomach and I had a constant headache. I finally went to her and let her know how I was feeling. She was very apologitic and immediately took it out.

My suggestion is to let him know, he probably doesn't even realize he smells.

Good luck on getting your fresh air back!

 
marlene harmon
said this on 13 Mar 2009 4:51:35 PM EST
How about getting an "air spray" or plugin with a pleasant scent to get rid of the other "scent". Many times smokers, etc. are not aware of the odor carried on their clothes, etc. And unfortunately, nowadays, most smokers are terribly sensitive.

 
Mrs. R.
said this on 14 Mar 2009 8:45:07 PM EST
Do you think his supervisor could talk to him about it? It is a delicate subject, but no different than the whole, "how do I tell someone they have B.O." issue. As Marlene said, he probably can't smell himself. Smells can trigger allergies and migraines. At the very least he should be sensitive to that if nothing else.

 
Mrs. M.
said this on 16 Mar 2009 8:43:19 AM EST
Getting an "air spray" or "plugin" could also be a catalyst in triggering allergies or migraines in other co-workers, thereby compounding the problem. I agree with ANON above that the best action is to go directly to the person; let them know how this is affecting you (and others). As Mrs. R. stated, the person should sensitive to the fact that co-workers are experiencing allergy/migraine onset because of this. Being forthright with co-workers in such situations shows that you truly care about their acceptance within the group, as well as the well being of others within your organization.

 
Leslie
said this on 16 Mar 2009 10:25:37 AM EST
Is it possible for you to move to a different area of the office or trade spots with another smoker? Two smokers side by side can better tolerate each other's stink. Another suggestion would be to have the company buy one of those towering air filtration machines (not sure what they are called exactly). This would help filter the air without adding a third smell - air freshener. They aren't that expensive and can be purchased at WalMart.

 
Em...
said this on 16 Mar 2009 10:43:00 AM EST
There is no worse breath than that of a coffee drinker who's just had a cigarette! Personally, I love mints anyway, so I would bring in a bag of lifesavers mints or perhaps some peppermints & put them in a nice little container on my desk, making a public announcment that if anyone would like one to help themselves. If the stinky coworker didn't take the bait I would make a point next time I was speaking to him to take a mints for myself, pop it in my mouth, & say, "Want a mint?" to him also. That was it is all seemingly innocent & no feelings get hurt. :)

 
Ilja Kraag
said this on 16 Mar 2009 3:56:07 PM EST
Telling a smoker that he stinks in the hope he will stop smoking is a lost case. Smoking is a hard to break addiction. A solution may be, as suggested by Leslie, to swap places with another smoker or to ask for the placement of an airfilter machine. These machines are so cheap that you can buy one yourself if the department is not willing to pay for this. I also agree that adding another "sthink" in the form of an airfreshner is not a good one. It may create even more problems. I don't know how close you sit together but maybe it is an option to have a high partition wall places to buffer the smell. Good luck.

 
Freda
said this on 17 Mar 2009 9:37:20 AM EST
We have the same problem here. The person that sat on the other side of the cube from this smoker had to actually buy one of those air purifiers and put it under her desk. It didn't totally solve the problem though. I personally think that it is a violation of the non-smokers' rights to have to tolerate something that is actually deadly. I know some companies do not hire smokers and I think this is a good policy. They won't let us heat seafood in our break room because of the smell, but the lingering cigarette odor is 100 times worse!

 
Becky
said this on 20 Mar 2009 4:54:29 PM EST
Hello...what about the smokers rights. Those seem to be lost.

 
DawnMarie
said this on 24 Mar 2009 2:15:51 PM EST
Freda, although smoking odors can offend some people; there are other items such as POD perfume over dose, natural body odor, meal preference and other such items that can be bothersome. However, to agree with discriminatory companies that choose not to hire smokers... that is not a good call for an HR professional. Please keep in mind that a person can not be disqualified from a position for items that have nothing to do with whether the person can perform the job duties and requirements of the position. At this point in time smoking is still legal, and persons who choose this lifestyle should not be discriminated against. We are trying to break free from this type of behavior and thought processes.

 
Louise
said this on 18 Mar 2009 11:42:30 AM EST
First off, wouldn't this be considered a hostile work environment? Second, I don't any company that allows six or seven breaks per day, whether it's five minutes or fifteen. Smokers have no clue as to how much they stink. I attended a seminar once on HR Law and this question was brought up. The instrutor said everyone should be allowed to take a fifteen break in the AM and one in the PM. The smokers can then smoke as many cigarettes as they want on those two breaks and lunch too. They are not entiled to six or seven a day just because they have an addiction. Less smoke breaks might cut down on the offensive smell. We don't allow drug addicts with addictions to administer their bad habbit so why do smokers think they are entitled? It's time for managment to step in taking the burden off your shoulders. Everyone is entilted to a clean and smoke free "smell" work environment.

 
Rose
said this on 20 Mar 2009 1:44:42 PM EST
The laws now don't allow smoking in cars where small children are, or smoking in your own apartment if the smoke is bothering the other tenents. I think the company should not allow people to smoke at their job and if they do, like EM says, have mints on your desk. Then say I sure hate cigarette smell or coffee breath, and pop one in your mouth, maybe they will take the hint.

 
Diana
said this on 20 Mar 2009 1:54:04 PM EST
I am an ex-smoker and did not realize how strong the smell was until after I quit. I now find it quite offensive. I think talking to the person and letting him know that the smell of smoke triggers headaches is the way to start. If he doesn't respond then the next step would be to address it with your management. I do not believe the "smell" of the smoke is deadly and since he is not smoking in the office it isn't a death issue. The "Rights" battle cry is a sure way to escalate the issue to new levels. Smokers have had to make all the adjustments for the "rights" of the non-smoker and you are now saying that even the smell violates your rights. I beg to differ. If you feel you have the right to a smell free environment I submit you should not wear perfume, lotions or eat lunch.

 
Liza
said this on 20 Mar 2009 2:03:51 PM EST
Ok-without becoming hostile or rude lets think about this.

Caffeine and Nicotine are addictive. Asking him to cut back won't work. Asking him to constantly eat mints won't work.

Air freshener: My office has a smoker that hates smelling like it, so instead she puts on an enormous amount of perfume. I'd rather smell smoke than a cloud of girly smell (I'm a girl-its overwhelming). So unless you want to constantly smell a strong odor of the air freshener, that won't work. Claiming you are in a hostile work environment won't work either-and its immature and dumb. Its like saying you eating smelly doritos all day is hostile (they do smell, and for some its not good).

So, my advice, is to talk to your manager and say its nauseating, causing headaches, etc..That is a sure bet you will be moved. It might help if you offer the idea to move as a way where both parties win.

My whole family smoked. I'd be in my parents house for 5 minutes and have to go home and shower- trust me, I feel your pain. But trying to solve the problem with less commotion will make you look better.

Just trust me on this one, think about how it would effect you if someone complained about you being hostile for your disgusting bad habits.. Be nice about it and you'll get what you want.

 
pekelvr
said this on 20 Mar 2009 2:18:07 PM EST
The smoker is not aware of the strong lingering after affects of his habit. Mention the smoke smell to him and suggest he purchase a purse size bottle of febreeze to spray on himself before he enters the building. The number of breaks he takes is irrelevent other than it makes the odor stronger, if he is a salaried employee he may work long days etc. Simple honesty and fact is all that should be utilized here, do not put him on the defense. He has a right to smoke, some people wear a bottle of perfume or don't shower often enough etc. and they are offensive as well. The cause of the odor is not the major issue here, it is how to address the odor while trying to not offend anyone. Pretty soon people will say it hurts their eyes if someone wears a bright color to work and it gives them a headache so how do we address someones color choices? Many smokers are very willing to accomodate non smokers if approached in a non threatening manner. I think smokers take the brunt of many issues where people that are obese or worse skate by without public ridicule. I am short, (or vertically challenged) and everyone thinks it is ok to make fun of me about it but if I were to say well i may be short but you are fat or ugly or bald or stupid it could start world war 3!!

 
Sarah Myers
said this on 20 Mar 2009 3:33:33 PM EST
Because I am a smoker, this is near-and-dear to my heart. I hate the smell of nicotine - it's as bad as the smoke, itself - but I find that alcohol-based hand sanitizer (like, Purell) really gets rid of that smell. Sometimes I even run it over my hair, or my sweater, if I think they are harboring any odor. I think it really works - people seem surprised really often when they find out I am a smoker.

Febreeze has a pretty strong odor, too, but it seems to go away really quickly. Even if the smoker is asked to wash their hands, that can really cut down on the smell, too!

 
Janet
said this on 20 Mar 2009 6:21:29 PM EST
As a natural health care clinic, we have policy regarding any sort of smells on our personnel. Many of our staff and patients are so sensitive to the smell of smoke, chemicals and any cover-up scents that they react very badly, so our company policy is: NO SMELLS. If you smoke you must not smell of it when you are at the office. You may not wear perfume or scent of any kind. We use special cleaners that do not leave scent traces. No special breaks are allowed -- just the regular 15 minutes per shift. And if you smoke during your break, you MUST NOT SMELL upon your return. Our staff know how to manage their smoking (the few that do; most realize the extremely negative effect on their health and do not smoke at all). My boss even thought that one employee had quit smoking, since she never smelled of it (I know that she did smoke at every break). Controlling the smells can be done; it simply must be addressed correctly and made policy.

And to those who worry about smoker's rights: while you have the right to smoke, you do not have the right to make those around you miserable. Secondary smoke is deadly (and if you can smell it, it's in the air, even if the person is not actively smoking). In my case, the smell of any kind of smoke (even from a fire or a candle) brings on a severe asthma attack. How could you possibly think you have the right to affect my health? If a person had an addiction to, say, flinging food about (perhaps they had permission from their psychiatrist to do this in order to relieve their symptoms, whatever those might be) and everyone around them ended up with spaghetti all over their clothes, it would not be tolerated in the workplace. If a person had a disorder that made them shout obscenities at the top of their lungs for hours at a time (such disorders exist), it would not be tolerated in the workplace. If your vice affects the co-workers and/or customers you come in contact with, it is your responsibility to control its effects. Feel free to indulge on your own time and in your own space, but please have the courtesy to avoid destroying the health and well-being of others.

 
Ms R
said this on 23 Mar 2009 2:55:01 PM EST
I agree with Janet. We mustn't forget either the smoker's rights, nor the rights of others in the work place who are bothered by chemical odors, perfumes and cigarette smoke. If you can smell the odor, whatever is causing that odor (carcinogenic or not) IS present, and, therefore capable of causing harm.

Management should step up and take care of this. It is possible to have a private talk with the smoker, just as they would if someone was using a failing deodorant. Offering to move might help smooth matters over with management (showing a willingness to work out a solution) as well as the co-worker. Another thing to consider is reasonable accommodations under the ADA. We have several staff who are sensitive to chemicals and odors. When they applied for accommodation, our management declared the entire workplace smoke and chemical odor-free, rather than compromise their health.

As a side note, I find it amusing that people are up in arms about smokers' rights - - they certainly didn't care about non-smokers' rights. For years I couldn't dine in restaurants, fly in airplanes, relax in a bar, dance in a club, work in an office, or shop in a store without having smoke blown in my face. I don't advocate tit-for-tat behavior, but come on, people. If I could put up with discomfort for years and years, you can put up with a little inconvenience, now. We also have a staff person battling lung cancer, who never smoked. Her only exposure was to second-hand smoke, which scientists now claim is even more harmful than first-hand smoke. In a civilized society, we have to get along - - compromises on both sides are called for

 
Brett Hopkins
said this on 16 Jul 2009 10:04:23 PM EST
Cry babies. Seriously STFU




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